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−	'''Lester Sill''' (January 13, 1918 – October 31, 1994) was a United States record label executive who rose to become the president of Screen Gems-Columbia Music, a director at ASCAP and consulting president for Jobete Music (Motown Records publishing division).<ref name="Dec 25, 1976 Billboard p. 27"/> He is best known as the producer and music supervisor for The Monkees,<ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits"/> and the cofounder of Philles records with Phil Spector in 1961.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/></s>	+	'''Lester Sill''' (January 13, 1918 – October 31, 1994) was a United States record label executive who rose to become the president of Screen Gems-Columbia Music, a director at ASCAP and consulting president for Jobete Music (Motown Records publishing division).<ref name="Dec 25, 1976 Billboard p. 27"/><ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994" /> He is best known as the producer and music supervisor for The Monkees,<ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits"/> and the cofounder of Philles records with Phil Spector in 1961.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/></s>

	As an independent producer in the 1950s and 1960s, he was a moving force behind Hadda Brooks and B. B. King.<ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994"/> He formed independent labels around composers like Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Lee Hazlewood and Phil Spector. Rostered artists included Duane Eddy, The Coasters, The Paris Sisters, and The Crystals.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Sill's productions often included musicians that went on to become The Wall of Sound, <ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> and The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/>		As an independent producer in the 1950s and 1960s, he was a moving force behind Hadda Brooks and B. B. King.<ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994"/> He formed independent labels around composers like Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Lee Hazlewood and Phil Spector. Rostered artists included Duane Eddy, The Coasters, The Paris Sisters, and The Crystals.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Sill's productions often included musicians that went on to become The Wall of Sound, <ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> and The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/>

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 == Career ==
-Sill first entered show business as a nightclub owner, but in 1945, he joined the sales and promotion staff of the [[Bihari brothers]]' [[Modern Records]], first as a regonal sale manager and then producing sessions for R&B acts including [[Charles Brown (musician)|Charles Brown]] and [[Hadda Brooks]].<ref name="Talevski 2010 p. 592">{{cite book | last=Talevski | first=N. | title=Rock Obituaries: Knocking On Heaven's Door | publisher=Music Sales | year=2010 | isbn=978-0-85712-117-2 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DykffzkFALoC&pg=PA592 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=592}}</ref> Sill shepherded the fledgling career of the songwriting team of [[Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller]]. In 1950, Sill met Leiber at Modern Records,<ref name="Palmer 1978">{{cite book |last= Palmer |first= Robert |date= 1978 |title= Baby, That Was Rock' N Roll |location= United States |publisher= A Harvest / HBJ book  |page= <!-- or pages= --> |isbn= 0156101556 |author-link=}}</ref> where the aspiring lyricist worked as a retail clerk and suggested he find a partner who could read and write music, spurring the beginning of Leiber's collaboration with Mike Stoller.<ref name="Simpson 2003 p. 135">{{cite book | last=Simpson | first=P. | title=The Rough Guide to Cult Pop | publisher=Rough Guides | series=Music rough guide | year=2003 | isbn=978-1-84353-229-3 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=F7hpXcrqA-8C&pg=PA135 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=135}}</ref> Sill produced the 1951 [[Jimmy Witherspoon]] effort "Real Ugly Woman," the first recorded Leiber and Stoller collaboration.<ref name="Simpson 2003 p. 135"/>
+Sill first entered show business as a nightclub owner, but in 1945, he joined the sales and promotion staff of the [[Bihari brothers]]' [[Modern Records]], first as a regonal sale manager and then producing sessions for R&B acts including [[Charles Brown (musician)|Charles Brown]] and [[Hadda Brooks]].<ref name="Talevski 2010 p. 592">{{cite book | last=Talevski | first=N. | title=Rock Obituaries: Knocking On Heaven's Door | publisher=Music Sales | year=2010 | isbn=978-0-85712-117-2 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DykffzkFALoC&pg=PA592 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=592}}</ref> Sill shepherded the fledgling career of the songwriting team of [[Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller]]. In 1950, Sill met Leiber at Modern Records,<ref name="Palmer 1978">{{cite book |last= Palmer |first= Robert |date= 1978 |title= Baby, That Was Rock' N Roll |location= United States |publisher= A Harvest / HBJ book  |page= <!-- or pages= --> |isbn= 0156101556 |author-link=}}</ref> where the aspiring lyricist worked as a retail clerk and suggested he find a partner who could read and write music, spurring the beginning of Leiber's collaboration with Mike Stoller.<ref name="Simpson 2003 p. 135">{{cite book | last=Simpson | first=P. | title=The Rough Guide to Cult Pop | publisher=Rough Guides | series=Music rough guide | year=2003 | isbn=978-1-84353-229-3 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=F7hpXcrqA-8C&pg=PA135 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=135}}</ref> Sill produced the 1951 [[Jimmy Witherspoon]] effort "Real Ugly Woman", the first recorded Leiber and Stoller collaboration.<ref name="Simpson 2003 p. 135"/>
 *'''Spark Records'''

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 All of the Sills except Harriet would attain success in Hollywood as part of the Sill/Kaye music publishing and music supervision dynasty, now in its third generation. Harriet achieved her own success as the matriarch and fighting tigress of the Sill family. You did not want to mess with a Sill or with Chuck Kay, Harriet's son from a previous marriage.
 |author=[[Wikipedia:Carole King|Carole King]]
-|title= "[[Wikipedia: A Natural Woman (book)| ''A Natural Woman, A Memoir'']]"
+|title= "[[Wikipedia: A Natural Woman (book)|''A Natural Woman, A Memoir'']]"
 |source= Grand Central Publishing, (2012)<ref name="King 2012 p. "/>
 }}

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 * '''Trey Records '''
-In late 1959, Sill and Hazlewood formed Trey Records, a Hollywood-based imprint distributed by Atlantic. Trey Records signings included Phil Spector, fresh off the success of his group [[The Teddy Bears]]', chart-topping pop classic, "[[To Know Him Is to Love Him]]". Sill allowed Spector to live in his Sherman Oaks home, sharing a room with Joel Sill.name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 54"/> Spector worked as an apprentice to Leiber and Stoller, as a studio musician and studio technician.<ref name="nyt Spector Dead"/>
+In late 1959, Sill and Hazlewood formed Trey Records, a Hollywood-based imprint distributed by Atlantic. Trey Records signings included Phil Spector, fresh off the success of his group [[The Teddy Bears]]', chart-topping pop classic, "[[To Know Him Is to Love Him]]". Sill allowed Spector to live in his Sherman Oaks home, sharing a room with Joel Sill.<ref name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 54"/> Spector worked as an apprentice to Leiber and Stoller, as a studio musician and studio technician.<ref name="nyt Spector Dead"/>
 * '''Gregmark'''
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 ==Family==
-Sill's three sons are music supervisors in film and television,
+Sill's three sons are music supervisors in film and television, Joel Sill,<ref name="Yang Yang 2018"/> Greg Sill,<ref name="Greg Sill Variety"/> and Lonnie Sill.<ref name="AllMusic Lonnie"/> His stepson [[Chuck Kaye]] is a longtime music publishing executive,<ref name="Greg Sill Variety"/> his grandson, Alex Sill, is a jazz guitarist with the Simon Phillips band.<ref name="Times-Standard 2022"/>
 ==References==
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 <ref name="AllMusic RebelRouser">{{cite web | title=Rebel Rouser - Duane Eddy - Song Info | website=AllMusic | url=https://www.allmusic.com/song/rebel-rouser-mt0004848948 | language=rw | access-date=2021-12-10}}</ref>
 }}

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 ==Family==
-His three sons are music supervisors in film and television:
+Sill's three sons are music supervisors in film and television,
 Joel Sill,<ref name="Yang Yang 2018">{{cite web | last=Yang | first=Rachel | last2=Yang | first2=Rachel | title=Guild of Music Supervisors Awards to Honor Joel Sill; King Princess to Perform (EXCLUSIVE) | website=Variety | date=2018-12-13 | url=https://variety.com/2018/music/news/guild-music-supervisors-awards-joel-sill-king-princess-1203088235/ | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191107203851/https://variety.com/2018/music/news/guild-music-supervisors-awards-joel-sill-king-princess-1203088235/ | archive-date=2019-11-07 | url-status=live | access-date=2019-11-07}}</ref>
-Greg Sill,<ref name="Greg Sill Variety">{{cite web | title=Greg Sill, ‘Justified’ Music Supervisor, Dies at 63 – Variety | website=Variety | url=https://variety.com/2018/music/obituaries-people-news/music-supervisor-greg-sill-dead-1202731633/ | access-date=2019-11-04| archive-date=2019-11-04 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191104171622/https://variety.com/2018/music/obituaries-people-news/music-supervisor-greg-sill-dead-1202731633/}}</ref> and Lonnie Sill.
+Greg Sill,<ref name="Greg Sill Variety">{{cite web | title=Greg Sill, ‘Justified’ Music Supervisor, Dies at 63 – Variety | website=Variety | url=https://variety.com/2018/music/obituaries-people-news/music-supervisor-greg-sill-dead-1202731633/ | access-date=2019-11-04| archive-date=2019-11-04 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191104171622/https://variety.com/2018/music/obituaries-people-news/music-supervisor-greg-sill-dead-1202731633/}}</ref> and Lonnie Sill.<ref name="AllMusic Lonnie">{{cite web|url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/lonnie-sill-mn0001915687|title=Lonnie Sill's credits|publisher=AllMusic|accessdate=November 7, 2019}}</ref>
-<ref name="AllMusic Lonnie">{{cite web|url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/lonnie-sill-mn0001915687|title=Lonnie Sill's credits|publisher=AllMusic|accessdate=November 7, 2019}}</ref> His stepson [[Chuck Kaye]] is a longtime music publishing executive.<ref name="Greg Sill Variety"/>
+His grandson, Alex Sill, is a jazz guitarist with the Simon Phillips band.<ref name="Times-Standard 2022">{{cite web | last=Times-Standard | first=The | title=Drummer has new band, new album | website=Times-Standard | date=2022-01-13 | url=https://www.times-standard.com/2022/01/13/drummer-has-new-band-new-album/ | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220113140403/https://www.times-standard.com/2022/01/13/drummer-has-new-band-new-album/ | archive-date=2022-01-13 | url-status=live | access-date=2022-03-24}}</ref>
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 * '''Trey Records '''
-In late 1959, Sill and Hazlewood formed Trey Records, a Hollywood-based imprint distributed by Atlantic. Trey Records signings included Phil Spector, fresh off the success of his group [[The Teddy Bears]]', chart-topping pop classic, "[[To Know Him Is to Love Him]]". Sill allowed Spector to live in his Sherman Oaks home, sharing a room with Joel Sill<ref name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 54">{{cite book | last=Ribowsky | first=M. | title=He's a Rebel: Phil Spector, Rock and Roll's Legendary Producer | publisher=Cooper Square Press | series=G - Reference, Information and Interdisciplinary Subjects Series | year=2000 | isbn=978-0-8154-1044-7 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jsQRwiwtlN0C&pg=PA54 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=53-62}}</ref> Spector worked as an apprentice to Leiber and Stoller, as a studio musician and studio technician.<ref name="nyt Spector Dead"/>
+In late 1959, Sill and Hazlewood formed Trey Records, a Hollywood-based imprint distributed by Atlantic. Trey Records signings included Phil Spector, fresh off the success of his group [[The Teddy Bears]]', chart-topping pop classic, "[[To Know Him Is to Love Him]]". Sill allowed Spector to live in his Sherman Oaks home, sharing a room with Joel Sill.name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 54"/> Spector worked as an apprentice to Leiber and Stoller, as a studio musician and studio technician.<ref name="nyt Spector Dead"/>
 * '''Gregmark'''
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 <ref name="Feldman 2021">{{cite web | last=Feldman | first=Kate | title=Phil Spector, music producer and convicted killer, dead at 81 | website=nydailynews.com | date=2021-01-17 | url=https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-phil-spector-obituary-20210117-j53z3bnizzc75nw3235lrmkit4-story.html | access-date=2021-07-17}}</ref>
-<ref name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 57 Spector in Sill's home">{{cite book | last=Ribowsky | first=M. | title=He's a Rebel: Phil Spector, Rock and Roll's Legendary Producer | publisher=Cooper Square Press | series=G - Reference, Information and Interdisciplinary Subjects Series | year=2000 | isbn=978-0-8154-1044-7 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jsQRwiwtlN0C&pg=PA57 | access-date=2021-07-18 | page=57}}</ref>
+<ref name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 54">{{cite book | last=Ribowsky | first=M. | title=He's a Rebel: Phil Spector, Rock and Roll's Legendary Producer | publisher=Cooper Square Press | series=G - Reference, Information and Interdisciplinary Subjects Series | year=2000 | isbn=978-0-8154-1044-7 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jsQRwiwtlN0C&pg=PA54 | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=53-62}}</ref>
 <ref name="AllMusic Lester">{{cite web|url=http://www.allmusic.com/artist/lester-sill-mn0000273082/biography|title=Lester Sill's biography|publisher=AllMusic|author=Jason Ankeny|accessdate=February 16, 2016}}</ref>

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 '''Lester Sill''' (January 13, 1918 – October 31, 1994) was a United States record label executive who rose to become the president of Screen Gems-Columbia Music, a director at ASCAP and consulting president for Jobete Music (Motown Records publishing division).<ref name="Dec 25, 1976 Billboard p. 27"/>  He is best known as the producer and music supervisor for The Monkees,<ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits"/> and the cofounder of Philles records with Phil Spector in 1961.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/></s>
-As an independent producer in the 1950s and 1960s, he was a moving force behind Hadda Brooks and B. B. King.<ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994"/> He formed independent labels around composers like Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Lee Hazlewood and Phil Spector. Rostered artists included Duane Eddy, The Coasters, The Paris Sisters, and The Crystals.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Sill produced the talent that went on to become The Wall of Sound, <ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> and The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/>
+As an independent producer in the 1950s and 1960s, he was a moving force behind Hadda Brooks and B. B. King.<ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994"/> He formed independent labels around composers like Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Lee Hazlewood and Phil Spector. Rostered artists included Duane Eddy, The Coasters, The Paris Sisters, and The Crystals.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Sill's productions often included musicians that went on to become The Wall of Sound, <ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> and The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/>
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 Sill's partnership with Lee Hazlewood launched the career of Duane Eddy and many of the studio musicians supporting the act went on to be core members of The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/> Sill hired Phil Spector as an apprentice to Leiber and Stoller and later partnered with Spector in the Philles label, the name being a combination of both men's informal first names.  <s>In return for his support and generosity (Spector lived in Sill's home for several years),<ref name="Ribowsky 2000 p. 57 Spector in Sill's home"/> Sill was never repaid for his investment in Philles Records and The Wall of Sound.</s><ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Following this, as a record executive, Sill worked under Don Kirshner where his responsibilities included acts like The Monkees, The Partridge Family and Carol King.<ref name="King 2012 p. "/><ref name="Lester Sill Dies at 76 Billboard"/>
+-->
 == Early life and family ==
 Sill was dental technician who became a combat engineer in the Army because his papers said he knew about, “dentures and bridges.” After serving in [[Casablanca]] during World War II, he was discharged from the Army and left Philadelphia, moving to California to stay with his mother at the beach.  Upon arrival, he met four year old Chuck (muddy and scared that he was in trouble), and Chuck's mother Harriet, his future wife. He opened Cotton’s Club on Western Avenue and 35th, with Harriet’s brother, Cotton's Club ran afoul of the authorities and was closed for after hours drinking. Sill took some door to door sales positions which he did not enjoy, until he met Lester Bahari of Modern Records in 1946.  He soon found himself working in the record store and was offered a distribution route covering the Fresno to San Diego territory, selling R&B and rock and roll genre records to stores and refreshing jukebox inventory.  On his route, he noticed that he was driving by several radio stations and began befriending disc-jockeys, Sunday radio spins helped with his Monday sales.<ref name="Smith LOC 1986"> {{Cite LOC finding aid|author = Smith, J|url = https://www.loc.gov/item/jsmith000138/|title = Off the record interview with Lester Sill, 1986-03-13|date = 1986|accessdate = 04 November 2019}}</ref>

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-'''Lester Sill''' (January 13, 1918 – October 31, 1994) was a United States record label executive who rose to become the president of Screen Gems-Columbia Music, a director at ASCAP and consulting president for Jobete Music (Motown Records publishing division).<ref name="Dec 25, 1976 Billboard p. 27"/>  He is best known as the producer and music supervisor for The Monkees,<ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits"/> selling more records than the Beatles and Rolling Stones combined in 1967.<ref name="Greene Greene 2012 - Monkees Sales"/> <s>and the cofounder of Philles records with Phil Spector in 1961?.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/></s>
+'''Lester Sill''' (January 13, 1918 – October 31, 1994) was a United States record label executive who rose to become the president of Screen Gems-Columbia Music, a director at ASCAP and consulting president for Jobete Music (Motown Records publishing division).<ref name="Dec 25, 1976 Billboard p. 27"/>  He is best known as the producer and music supervisor for The Monkees,<ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits"/> and the cofounder of Philles records with Phil Spector in 1961.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/></s>
 As an independent producer in the 1950s and 1960s, he was a moving force behind Hadda Brooks and B. B. King.<ref name="Los Angeles Times 1994"/> He formed independent labels around composers like Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Lee Hazlewood and Phil Spector. Rostered artists included Duane Eddy, The Coasters, The Paris Sisters, and The Crystals.<ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> Sill produced the talent that went on to become The Wall of Sound, <ref name="AllMusic Lester"/> and The Wrecking Crew.<ref name="Paulson 2012"/><ref name="Feldman 2021"/>
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 <ref name="King 2012 p. ">{{cite book | last=King | first=C. | title=A Natural Woman: A Memoir | publisher=Grand Central Publishing | year=2012 | isbn=978-1-4555-1259-1 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=T6O9Onmu9_cC | language=fr | access-date=2019-11-07 | page=}}</ref>
 <ref name="AllMusic Lester Credits">{{cite web | title=Lester Sill - Credits | website=AllMusic | url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/lester-sill-mn0000273082/credits | access-date=2021-12-05}}</ref>
 <ref name="nyt Spector Dead">{{cite web | title=Phil Spector, Famed Music Producer and Convicted Murderer, Dies at 81 | website=The New York Times | date=2021-01-17 | url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/arts/music/phil-spector-dead.html | access-date=2021-12-08 | archive-date=2021-12-03| archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211203222225/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/arts/music/phil-spector-dead.html}}</ref>

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